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zoomar
08-12-2006, 04:54 PM
I just stumbled onto this site and glad I did. Since a child (I am now in my mid-fifties) I have been fascinated with rigid airships. As a youth I built hundreds of plastic models (planes and ships, mostly) and tried my skill at balsa and plank-on frame kits as well. I was always disappointed that so few rigid airships were featured by plastic kit manufacturers. I still model on an intermittant basis. I remember the old Hawk/Testors Graf Zeppelin vacuform, which I never tried, and an almost as old Frog 1/400 R100, which for many years was the only model kit rigid airship I ever actually owned. Then came the old AMT Hindenburg and Akron/Macon at 1/500 scale. I built both (despite the fact that AMT ruined both of them by covering the hulls with massively out-of scale fabric impressions. Then I found the two 1/720 Revell HIndenburg/Graf Zeppelin II kits, which were very nice and fit well with my collection of 1/700 warships.

Then, several years ago, I was in Europe visiting my son and made the pilgrimage we all must make to Freidrichschafen and the Zeppelin Museum. It was in this context, I discovered - and bought- a half-dozen paper card models. I had never worked in this medium before and am quite an amateur, but my study is now graced with a Papmobil 1/200 Los Angeles, Schreiber-Bogen 1/200 L-13 and Hindenburg, and a 1/400 Macon I later ordered from papermodels inc. Several kits I bought in Germany are still unopened. The L-13 is by far the best, quite accurate in outline and coloration (not silver but with slightly varying strips of tan), fairly easy for an amateur to assemble, small enough to be manageable and well supported by its internal cardboard bulkheads, and with nicely detailed control and engine cars. I particularly like the way the Schreiber-Bogen L-13 and Hindenburg acheive the curved nose contours without using sized cone construction. To me the Hindenburg was somewhat disappointing, however, It was almost too big to construct easily, I found that the hull joints fit poorly, creating a rough look to the finished model, and way too much effort was spent on internal details (engine car interiors, passenger accomodations) which were virtually invisible once the model was finished. By at almost 48 inches in length it sure looks pretty impressive hanging up there...and by golly it's a zeppelin!

I have always wondered why more zeppelin kits using balsa frame and tissue were not made. Until I found this site, I was unaware any had ever been made. This is a fairly easy (if tedious) construction system and could be made to closely replicate the actual ring and longitudinal stringer construction of each airship modelled.

Anyway, Glad I discovered you guys

Charles Adams
08-13-2006, 12:27 AM
Welcome aboard! :D Things are kind of slow around here, but we are growing. It seems there aren't that many airship modeling enthusiasts out there, or perhaps they are having a hard time finding this place. ;)

Gil Russell
08-15-2006, 12:16 AM
Hi Zoomar,

Seems all of us have this strange affliction...., anyway glad you discovered us and we, er, discovered you..., think it's called proper introductions...,

Best, Gil Russell

P.S. Now build something and post pictures. If it doesn't turn out well just talk about it instead...,

zoomar
08-15-2006, 03:23 PM
OK, Gil, I took a couple of pics, but how do you get a standard digital picture reduced to the 500kb size you can post. I suppose I could crop it but then everything's cut in half.

Call me stupid

zoomar
08-15-2006, 03:37 PM
OK, OK, I think I may have figured it out. Here are two picks of card models, one a 1/200 L-13 and the other a 1/350 Akron. Made basically "from the book". My first card model efforts, but if one wants to make a zeppelin kit, one has few choices. Be gentle.

Paul Adams
08-15-2006, 07:54 PM
Nice job on the kits zoomar; espacially the L13.

I built that model myself and was pleased with the results, but it was a lot of work.

Charles Adams
08-15-2006, 09:16 PM
Looks good! I picked up the L13 myself to see firsthand what these paper kits are really all about. The one that really bugs me about paper models (other than approximating the curved hull with a series of frustums) is the "rigging" made from strips of paper. That one thing destroys the sense of scale faster than anything else. Of course that's not the builder's fault but the way it was designed. Can't people use wire, thread, or thin plastic rods instead???

Still, the paper models are BIG and that's great!! :D

Gil Russell
08-16-2006, 12:39 AM
It's always easy to think how good the model will look but the real foible is one's own innate inability to perform the requisite tasks with elan, forte and something called practice. This last item is, alas, the hardest of all to come by. The following thread at Kartonbau will take you to a Japanese Master; enjoy and realize there is much to strive for..., -Gil Russell

http://www.kartonbau-aktiv.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=8001&hilightuser=583

Charles Adams
08-16-2006, 08:52 AM
Wow! Amazing stuff! :)

whatisart
08-24-2006, 02:13 PM
I just stumbled across this site too - excellent stuff and glad I found it. I'm currently researching the British airship NS11 and I have a website that is very much a work in progress.

http://web.mac.com/whatisart/iWeb/NS11/NS11.html

I'm also just starting construction of a CAD model of NS11 ? which is proving 'interesting' but will, hopefully, further my understanding of the airship. How I use this on the site I'm yet to decide.

And, I'd not really thought about building a physical model, but you've certainly got me thinking...!

Looking forward to sharing our obsession.

Peter 'Art' Lewry
UK

Danthekiwi
10-29-2006, 09:04 AM
That L-13 is awespme!!! Does anywhere do onlne orders of that?

*goes to bank to get credit card*

zoomar
10-29-2006, 01:47 PM
Its available from several sites in the US, UK, and Europe. Don't know about NZ or Australia. Try this:

http://www.papermodels.net/

go Search/aircraft/airships It's JFS 567 on the second page. Be careful, before you're done ordering you may end up with 5-6 other models as well.